ANA 787 Seat Maps

Discussion in 'ANA | Mileage Club' started by JALPak, Aug 25, 2011.  |  Print Topic

  1. JALPak
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  2. JALPak
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    JALPak Gold Member

    Looks like 21ACHK would be the best Y seat in longhaul config. They have plenty of legrooms :D
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  3. QSG
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    Depends on the placement of that wall...but it does look spacious :) !
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  4. JALPak
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    i think they draw the wall on the map too. Isn't the line in front of row 21 in longhaul config supposed to be the bulkhead? Looks like they could easily add a row 20ACHK but chose not to...NH is really towards the more generous side of the spectrum in Y legroom and seat width
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  5. QSG
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    Yes , must be a physical wall ! My idea is that in the same space they will eventually put a PY cabin once they get the seats sorted and get compensated by Koito! You could easily fit row 20 and get row 35 in the back if they wanted to.
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  6. JALPak
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    Interesting...I wonder if the PY seats will even happen though. It has been quite a while since the Koito mess
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  7. QSG
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    Supposedly they are still in a legal battle:eek:! They could easily fit another 4 seats in that mini-cabin if not 8 ! Seems strange to me to leave that amount of space free in Y for one row! If the seat map is true then the back end Y cabin is perfectly fitted but the forward Y cabin sort of "floats" in the extra space!
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  8. MSPeconomist
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    I can't believe an airline would deliberately install fewer seats than can fit.

    The small Y cabins are interesting.

    I'm shocked by how few business class seats there are on the short/medium haul configuration.
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  9. JALPak
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    That's the short term high density config used on domestic flights. They will configure them with more C seats later
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  10. QSG
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    The rumored UA 787 long haul configuration will seat 219 (36 J 63 Y+ 120 Y-).....so with that you can see how many fewer seats NH have put in !
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  11. briantoronto
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    Looking forward to it in November!
  12. joejones
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    UA seems to get a ton of its transpac business from the government, particularly DoD. Every time I have flown UA transpac in Y, I have been surrounded by military people, and have seen many people using official passports at immigration. It makes sense that they would have a coach bias in their configurations with that kind of demand. On the other hand, NH has had a very C-heavy configuration on transpacs for a while, even in comparison to JL. Almost all of their transpacs now have more cabin space devoted to C than to Y, and on the few occasions when I've enjoyed it, the C cabin has been chock full of pax. I don't know whether they have better corporate contracts or a better reputation or what, but they are selling a ton of really expensive long-haul seats.

    I am surprised that the domestic variant of the 787 will have 2-4-2 seating in the back. ANA generally loves to cram the pax in on domestic flights, and a 3-3-3 setup on the 787 would be completely normal by Japan domestic standards. Compare to their infamous 514-seat "sardine can" 777-300...

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  13. JALPak
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    JAL is actually more C heavy with 77 C seats vs NH's 68/52 staggered seats on their 773's

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  14. joejones
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    In terms of cabin space taken up, though, ANA's latest configuration wins by a nose...

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    And their old configuration is almost exactly the same as JAL's, only with a bit less premium economy.

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    Compare this to UA's new 772 config, which relatively minimizes the amount of "upgrade class" available...

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  15. QSG
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    As you noted above the UA configuration(actually most North American airlines) is back end heavy. We should remember that neither JL or NH upgrade anyone (well sometimes, and if you do get upgraded run out immediately and buy a lotto ticket). My more recent flights on NH have all been full in or near full in C. And on those 2 flights that I sat in Y those cabins were full too. I am elated if they can make money with configuration like that.....it will be a very comfortable way to fly!
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  16. JALPak
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    I bet NH will probably do 9 abreast for their domestic 787 eventually
  17. QSG
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    Absolutely, as will JAL! We still haven't seen what the real domestic cabin aircraft will look like.
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  18. MSPeconomist
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    Why do so many airlines configure their planes with middle seats in business class. These should be blocked off and turned into permanent tables until the seating can be re-done. It's disgusting for what people pay for these seats.
  19. joejones
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    Actually, I'm starting to notice the opposite problem. So many business class seats are turning into "isolation booths" that it's getting harder to find a cabin suitable for traveling with a spouse/significant other/business partner/friend.

    I'm sure there are a few folks, like expats who can travel with their families in business class, who like having blocks of 3 up front. Of course it isn't an ideal setup for the majority of front cabin travelers who are going solo.
  20. briantoronto
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    On the whole, I think is is preferable to be in isolation from family for a few hours versus being close to a stranger.
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  21. QSG
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    The US and new CX C/J seats have a middle pair that face each other on a slant.....(takes care of couples and bizness associates on junkets)
    http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trav...yfirst/envoysuite.html?c=glam_00728&re=1&re=1
    http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_HK/whatonboard/newbusinessclass

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