http://milepoint.com/forums/posts/145343/ Tom, just in case you didn't see my post on the other thread I link it here for your edification. It appears that web scraping as unethical and dishonest as you seem to believe has commercial interest from software developers which means there must be reasonable interest from the general population. Might that be so. I hope IMH, the penguin and the band of holier than thou types read the post as well I am not saying that KVS web scrapes, just that it appears to be a legitmate method of getting information from the web. it would aslo appear that if those with so called copyrights on their material want to protect it they would need anti web scraping software. Viasti does this bring me back into your intellectual fold?