US Airways “cautiously optimistic” over Delta slot swap

Discussion in 'US Airways | Dividend Miles' started by Sean Colahan, Mar 23, 2011.

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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    I was just thinking. Where would US operate out of at LGA when the deal does through and DL expands into the US terminal T LGA? Also, wondering how US will add gates at DCA? Never flown through DCA so don't know the exact layout of things. Perhaps dcpatti can provide some indite on this.
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    JetsettingEric Silver Member

    In the LGA plan, they'd have a split operation with the Shuttle operating out of the Marine Air Terminal and a limited operating in their existing terminal. However, if they plan carefully and don't plan to expand, they may be able to squeeze everything into the 4 gates at the marine air terminal. The DL shuttle serves Chicago in addition to BOS/DCA, so there should be enough room for LGA/BOS/CLT at a minimum. Depending on how they operate PHL (i would assume larger planes and less frequency) - they may be able to squeeze that in plus PIT and the 1 remaining express station into the marine terminal (forgot the destination). Another possibility - depending on how many slots they need to give up is to keep US in their terminal with 5 or so gates and let DL have the rest.

    4 gates in the marine air terminal would be tight, but this is how i would work it.
    BOS/DCA depart on the hour
    BOS/DCA arrive between :45 and :15 on the hour (37 min flight, but tons of delays, leave BOS/DCA on the hour)
    2 departures (alternating among PHL/CLT/PIT/1 other express) on the :45 (to clear space on the gate for the shuttle arrivals)
    2 arrivals (alternating among PHL/CLT/PIT/1 other express) on the :05 utilizing the gates from the shuttle departures

    To make this work - there would need to be a simplification of the fleet, due to the limited number of gates and the need to immediately turn planes. Likely E190s for BOS and PIT (upgraded from E170/175). And a 319 / 321 rotation for PHL (upgraded from Dash-8/CRJs), CLT (currently 321s +CRJs), and DCA (currently 319s, 321s subbed in during peak periods).
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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    Very interesting theory. I think that US said they were only going to fly mainline out of LGA if/when the deal goes through. I think they would still have 72 daily slot pairs to work off of. I kind of like it:). They could keep ownership of terminal D gates and lease then to DL in case US wants to expand in the future .
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    Btw...at least acording to google maps, the MAT has 6 gates.
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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    The MAT has 6 gates and I think it could work. Just looked at their current schedule and during the weekday they have 72 daily departues to BOS(16) on E190, DCA(16) on A319, PHL(16) on everything from Dash8 to E190, CLT(12) 319/320/321, PIT(9) ERJ, and ICM(3) ERJ which is how many slot pairs they will have after swap. The only time it could get tight is planes sitting overnight for the early AM departures. Might have to move some birds to remote stands to sit overnight. It would be tight but sweet to have all US flights under one historic building. I have never been to MAT, any space for a US Club?
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    dcpatti Silver Member

    There's a couple of ways it could work out at DCA. CO, Alaska and DL are pretty much sharing one pier (south pier), US and UA share the center pier with a few AA gates if memory serves, and US has the entire north pier; AC and FL (eventually WN) are in Terminal A with Spirit and Frontier. My understanding is that the airport authority wants AC to move back into the B/C building, to make *A connections easier. It won't surprise me if US swaps the DL gates for UA/CO's gates at the center pier, and the airport authority uses that as the catalyst to rearrange all the smaller players. There is already a Presidents Club near the current CO gates. The original plan had been for CO to come over to where AA is, next to UA, but that was before the slot swap looked like an actual reality and before the UA/CO merger got underway so I won't be surprised if we end up with a different approach. Alternately we could see US take over DL's current gates for Shuttle flights only, which would alleviate some of the congestion near the 40's gates, and I would imagine if they do that, there'd not only be a second US club added, but a North-to-south-pier shuttle added. Which I think would actually work out well, and would be a big win, because currently the north pier is a little quiet but the south pier can be pretty crowded at times, plus there's no airside transfer from say gate 10 to gate 36, and that's kind of a pain.

    I hope that WN stays in A, mainly because WN tends to put more investment into their gate areas (new seats, power ports, etc) and a lot of Terminal A is overdue for a facelift.
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    BTW one thing I really would like to see is a reconfiguration of gates 35/35A at DCA. 35A is the gate where you wait for the CRJ/ERJ145/Dash flights. You go downstairs on an escalator and meet a shuttle bus to take you to the plane. 35 is adjacent and usually it's a mainline flight out of that gate although occasionally you see an Express flight parked there. At any rate, there's usually 2-5 regional flights boarding at any time, and it's just too many people for such a small space. If they had access to more gates, perhaps they'd make 35 also be for the regionals; still use the escalator, but devote 35's waiting area/chairs/etc to 35A.
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    JetsettingEric Silver Member

    Press release just came out. Slot swap will proceed as planned. US getting cash from delta. Delta will keep a split operation at LGA. DL will take the current US club and US will build a new club. Remaining LGA destinations: bos, dca, phl, clt, pit.
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    Press release from us airways.com. The only thing it doesn't address is gates at DCA.

    ATLANTA & TEMPE, Ariz., May 23, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) and US Airways (NYSE: LCC) today announced a new agreement to transfer takeoff and landing rights at New York's LaGuardia and Washington D.C.'s Reagan National airports. The agreement, filed today with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), revises a 2009 transaction agreed between Delta and US Airways and approved by the DOT, but under terms not acceptable to the carriers, and never completed. The new agreement enables Delta and US Airways to expand service and increase competition at two of the nation's key cities, and provides the opportunity for additional access to LaGuardia and Reagan National for new entrants and airlines with a limited presence at the airports.

    Under the agreement, Delta would acquire 132 slot pairs at LaGuardia from US Airways and US Airways would acquire from Delta 42 slot pairs at Reagan National and the rights to operate additional daily service to Sao Paulo, Brazil in 2015, and Delta would pay US Airways $66.5 million in cash. In addition, the transaction could result in the divestiture of up to 16 slot pairs at LaGuardia and eight slot pairs at Reagan National to airlines with limited or no service at those airports. The completion of the transaction is subject to certain closing conditions, including government and regulatory approvals. A slot pair is the authority to operate one takeoff and one landing.

    "With this agreement, Delta will enhance competition in New York, which is already one of the most competitive aviation markets in the world, by expanding the passenger capacity at LaGuardia by as many as 4 million seats annually without increasing congestion," said Richard Anderson, Delta's Chief Executive Officer. "Our expanded presence at LaGuardia will double our available destinations, offering customers more frequent and convenient service at New York's preferred airport for business travel."

    US Airways' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Doug Parker said, "This agreement further strengthens our commitment to increase service and create more options for our customers wishing to travel to and from Washington, D.C. As a result of this transaction, many communities, including several smaller ones, will be able to enjoy additional nonstop service to our nation's capital."

    The proposed transaction will provide significant direct benefits to consumers flying to and from New York and Washington, as well as consumers traveling to other destinations along the East Coast as the two airlines enhance their networks. These benefits are generated by improved connectivity, enhanced service and increased efficiency at both airports.

    In addition, the competitive landscape in both cities has changed significantly since the transaction was first proposed in 2009. New entrants and smaller carriers, including AirTran Airways, JetBlue Airways and Southwest Airlines, have gained considerable access to slots at both LaGuardia and Reagan National and expanded service at these and other airports in the New York and Washington regions. Also, mergers between United Airlines and Continental Airlines and Southwest and AirTran have dramatically sharpened competition on the East Coast generally and particularly in the New York and Washington regions. Nonetheless, to address concerns previously raised by the Department of Transportation, the agreement provides for the divestiture of up to 16 slot pairs at LaGuardia and eight at Reagan National if required by the regulatory authorities.

    The proposed transaction has generated significant support from elected officials and community leaders in New York and Washington. In addition, the City and State of New York and both U.S. Senators from New York have supported the proposal, as have members of Congress representing New York, elected leaders in small communities and airports across the nation.

    The airlines will dismiss their appeal of the DOT's order regarding the original 2009 transaction that is currently pending in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington. Dismissing the appeal clears the way for DOT to consider the revised application.

    New York

    Delta's expanded operation at LaGuardia will allow more and improved connecting service in New York, and ensure economically viable service to small communities, while creating an expanded network that will be particularly valuable for New York business customers. The airline will approximately double the number of nonstop destinations it serves from LaGuardia, including top business destinations and many cities not currently served nonstop by Delta or US Airways.

    Delta will replace turboprop aircraft currently operated by US Airways with larger jets, adding as many as 4 million additional roundtrip seats available at LaGuardia without increasing congestion.

    As part of the agreement, Delta will take control of US Airways' Terminal C to create an expanded main terminal for customers. Delta will operate a total of 18 gates in Terminal C, and add one additional gate at Delta's Terminal D, for a total of 29 gates in the two terminals. A 600-foot connector will be built to connect the two terminals. Delta also will convert the existing US Airways lounge in Terminal C to a Sky Club, while continuing to operate its current Sky Club in Terminal D.

    Delta will continue to operate its popular hourly Delta Shuttle from its six gates at the Marine Air Terminal. In addition, Delta will spend up to $117 million to expand, renovate and consolidate terminals C and D over the next two years. Overall, the transaction will directly and indirectly generate an estimated 6,000 new jobs in New York.

    Since making a strategic decision to build New York into a hub earlier this decade, Delta has made major investments across the region, boosting its economic impact to more than $13 billion annually. The airline is currently constructing a $1.2 billion project that will enhance and expand Terminal 4 at John F. Kennedy International Airport, creating a state-of-the-art facility for New York's fastest-growing global airline.

    US Airways' popular hourly Shuttle service between LaGuardia, Reagan National and Boston that is operated on dual-class mainline jets will remain unchanged as a result of the transaction. Also, US Airways will continue to offer its customers high-frequency schedules from LaGuardia to its Charlotte, N.C. and Philadelphia hubs and Pittsburgh with more than 60 daily weekday flights. All US Airways flights from LaGuardia will continue to arrive and depart from nine gates and parking positions in Terminal C and US Airways will build a new, state-of-the-art 5,000-square-foot US Airways Club.

    Washington, D.C.

    At Reagan National, US Airways' expanded operation will connect more small, medium and large communities with the nation's capital and create additional flight options throughout the airline's route network. US Airways expects to further increase its use of dual class mainline aircraft and soon to be dual class larger regional jets at Reagan National. The move will benefit customers by increasing the number of available seats between Washington and favorite destinations without increasing congestion.

    US Airways plans to add at least 15 new destinations from Washington to its network as a result of the transaction and competition will be further enhanced by US Airways adding service to popular destinations that are currently served by other carriers. As a result, business and leisure travelers as well as military and government employees will have more access to the nation's capital and its downtown airport.

    Following full implementation of the new schedule, US Airways will operate approximately 230 peak-day departures at Reagan National, a 20 percent increase over current service levels. The airline anticipates an increase of approximately 20 to 25 percent in passenger enplanements at Reagan National as a result of the new flights and schedule improvements. However, there will be no increase in congestion at the airport due to US Airways' planned increase in scale and Delta's reduction in slots.

    The expansion is consistent with US Airways' previously announced strategic plan to focus on growing its key, most profitable airports at its Washington focus city, its Phoenix, Philadelphia and Charlotte hubs and its US Airways Shuttle service. Once the transition is complete, more than 99 percent of US Airways capacity will be to or from its key airports.

    Delta will continue to operate a robust schedule at Reagan National, with nonstop service between the airport and its seven domestic hubs and select cities. It also will continue to operate its Delta Shuttle between Reagan National and New York.

    International Service

    US Airways also will acquire from Delta in 2015 the rights to operate additional daily service at one of the world's most important business destinations - Sao Paulo, Brazil. As US Airways continues its strategic expansion into South America, the additional rights would allow it to operate two daily flights to Sao Paulo and continue its existing daily service to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

    Since the 2009 transaction, Japan and the U.S. have made an Open Skies agreement that would enable US Airways service to Tokyo Narita International Airport. As a result, the transfer of slots at Narita from Delta to US Airways that was included in the 2009 transaction is not part of the new transaction.

    About Delta

    Delta Air Lines serves more than 160 million customers each year, and was named by Fortune magazine as the most admired airline worldwide in its 2011 World's Most Admired Companies airline industry list. With an industry-leading global network, Delta and the Delta Connection carriers offer service to 346 destinations in 64 countries on six continents. Headquartered in Atlanta, Delta employs 80,000 employees worldwide and operates a mainline fleet of more than 700 aircraft. A founding member of the SkyTeam global alliance, Delta participates in the industry's leading trans-Atlantic joint venture with Air France-KLM and Alitalia. Including its worldwide alliance partners, Delta offers customers more than 13,000 daily flights, with hubs in Amsterdam, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-JFK, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Salt Lake City and Tokyo-Narita. The airline's service includes the SkyMiles frequent flier program, the world's largest airline loyalty program; the award-winning BusinessElite service; and more than 50 Delta Sky Clubs in airports worldwide. Delta is investing more than $2 billion through 2013 in airport facilities and global products, services and technology to enhance the customer experience in the air and on the ground. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes, check bags and review flight status at delta.com.

    About US Airways

    US Airways, along with US Airways Shuttle and US Airways Express, operates more than 3,200 flights per day and serves more than 200 communities in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, Europe, the Middle East, the Caribbean, Central and South America. The airline employs 32,000 aviation professionals worldwide and is a member of the Star Alliance network, which offers its customers 21,000 daily flights to 1,160 airports in 181 countries. Together with its US Airways Express partners, the airline serves approximately 80 million passengers each year and operates hubs in Charlotte, N.C., Philadelphia and Phoenix, and a focus city in Washington, D.C. at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. US Airways ranked #1 among its competing hub-and-spoke network carriers for 2010 performance as rated by the Wichita State University/Purdue University Airline Quality Rating (AQR) report and was recently named one of the top 100 companies in the United States for combined value and service. For more company information visit usairways.com, follow on Twitter @USAirways or at Facebook.com/USAirways. (LCCG)

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    SOURCE: US Airways

    US Airways
    Corporate Communications, 480-693-5729
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    Delta
    Corporate Communications, 404-715-2554
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    JetsettingEric Silver Member

    Where do you guys think the new US club will be? It sounds like US will retain the Shuttle Gates (where the current Shuttle, PIT and CLT flights depart from). There is easily enough space to fit in mainline flights to LaGuardia. The area is generally not bad with a lounge like setup already, work stations and bloomberg terminal. Another advantage of this space is that it's set up to work with a ground level exit for those deplaning the shuttle from the rear stairs. I always suspected DL would want these gates, as it's closer to the main terminal. I'm not sure where the new US lounge will go, but i'm suspecting the walkway between the old DL terminal and the current US terminal would be a good place to start. Any thoughts as to how DL will split up their operation? Possibly mainline in their current terminal, connection in the US terminal and shuttle in the marine terminal?
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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    Now I just need to plan a US mileage run through LGA so I can see it before it all changes.
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    If US can get DCA to LAX and SFO done that is plenty. SLC is reachable with DL. I just hope DL does not vanish completely from DCA.
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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    DL won't vanish...too many Biz travelers. Any word on govt opening up the DCA perimeter to certain flights?
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    Sean Colahan Gold Member

    Recent news shows that DOT has given preliminary approval. Will have to post link later.
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